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Meetings logs:
- Tini2p meeting from 2019-09-19
- MRL meeting from 2019-09-23
- Community meeting from 2019-09-28
2019-09-30 09:31:12 +02:00

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layout: post
title: Overview and Logs for the tini2p Dev Meeting Held on 2019-09-19
summary: Current project status, Roadmap, Meta issues, and miscellaneous
tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto]
author: el00ruobuob / oneiric
---
# Logs
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** time of the meet
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** 0: Greetings
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** h
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** 1: What's been done
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** A lot
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** Finished tunnels impl, and merged into master
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** (with helpful review from @DavidBurkett)
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** I'm still used to being the only person working on the project, so have to habituate myself to a workflow that includes other people
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** started work on the router context (what ties all the pieces together)
**\<DavidBurkett>** Don't change anything because of me. I'm slow and unreliable
**\<DavidBurkett>** I'll catch up eventually, just keep doing what you're doing :)
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** in the process, came across some impl bugs in NTCP2 (fixed), updated NTCP2 to include a testnet v. mainnet netID, and started working on ECIES updates
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** no worries, I just meant that you're the first other than me to review my code :)
**\<DavidBurkett>** Haha, got it
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** for the ECIES updates: there has been a lot of them
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** zzz pushed updates to move us to something much closer to standard Noise, and I love the changes
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** it's a bit of work to change my impl, but all the changes are for the better
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** the code is looking much cleaner now
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** the cryptographic guarantees are stronger and more clear as well, which is the bigger win imo
**\<DavidBurkett>** :rocket: Do you have a link to zzz's updates?
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** you can follow my work in my context branch: https://gitlab.com/tini2p/tini2p/tree/context
**\<DavidBurkett>** Ah perfect
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** yeah, zzz's updates are pushed to the main 144 proposal: https://geti2p.net/spec/proposals/144-ecies-x25519-aead-ratchet
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** we're still working out some kinks in the handshake, and will need to update the ratchet KDFs afterwards
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** we are getting \*\*much\*\* closer to finalizing the spec though, which is awesome
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** so, my impl may deviate from the spec a bit until we get everything figured out
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** we're trying to get as close to standard Noise as possible, while maintaining the necessary properties for ECIES-X25519 stated goals
**\<DavidBurkett>** That's great news
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** definitely
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** :smile\_cat:
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** the downside to all that is I've spent a good amount of time refactoring, so don't have code that is ready for a release candidate
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** long-term it's for the best, in the short-term it's a slog to get to alpha release
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** which leads to the next item
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** 2: What's next
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** continue the refactors for ECIES-X25519
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** get something working for end-to-end crypto sessions, and work with zzz on fixing spec bugs (if/when they come up)
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** finish the context impl
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** create the docker testnet for local integration testing
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** idk how long the docker testnet will take, but I'm hoping something minimal will be fairly easy to setup
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** if it takes more than a day or two, I'll push an alpha release candidate without the testnet
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** the biggest hurdle I see for the testnet is populating the NetDB of the routers with the RouterInfos of the other routers in the testnet
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** I don't have reseed impled, so I'll have to do something manual
**\<zlatinb>** you may find this useful: http://zzz.i2p/topics/2756-testnet-with-lxc-instructions
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** really hoping this is the last time I'll have to say this: pushing the alpha release date back another two weeks
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** awesome! thank you @zlatinb :)
**\<zlatinb>** also talk to "obscuratus" on Irc2P, he has a mixed i2pd/java i2p testnet, also with lxc
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** right on, I'm hoping to do it with docker for eventual windows support
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** right now, tini2p only builds on linux. will be working on cross-platform builds post-alpha
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** there's probably a lot of crossover in approach to lxc, so I appreciate the resources. will definitely be reaching out to obscuratus
**\<DavidBurkett>** Builds on mac also
**\<DavidBurkett>** But of course, that's based on linux
**\<DavidBurkett>** I nearly had it building on windows, but I got frustrated and quit :)
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** haha wow, thanks for build testing
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** yeah, I imagine the windows experience is pretty hellish atm
**\<DavidBurkett>** np, wasn't intentional. I'm the 0.1% of devs who prefers windows
**\<DavidBurkett>** So I tried there first
**\<DavidBurkett>** It wasn't quite as bad as you might think, but 1 of the dependencies was pissing me off lol
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** noise-c?
**\<DavidBurkett>** Yes, that's the one
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** yup
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** that's a bear
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** I'll be moving all the noise stuff into the project proper, and remove the noise-c lib
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** it's a great reference, but making it cross-platform is such a pain
**\<DavidBurkett>** Excellent. Let me know when you want me to try building again
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** will do, I appreciate the offer
**\<DavidBurkett>** :thumbsup:
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** long-term I hope to contribute a CMake build system to noise-c
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** atm that's low priority though
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** that will be extremely time-consuming, but I want to give something back to the project
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** rweather did a lot to help me understand Noise :)
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** so, that's more-or-less what I'll be working on: router context, ECIES updates, some NetDB stuff, docker testnet
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** 3: Questions/comments
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** alright, so that's the meeting
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** will do my best to get a release candidate out by next Thursday, and alpha release the following week
**\<DavidBurkett>** Looking forward to it
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** :+1:
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** 4: Next meeting
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** 2019-10-03 18:00 UTC
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** holy shit, we're already almost in October
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** thanks all for attending
**\<tini2p\_gitlab>** @tini2p\_gitlab twirls the gavel