Brief review of what has been completed since last meeting, discussion of meta issues, and code & open tickets discussion
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<anonimal> Alright, meeting time. <anonimal> 1. Greetings <anonimal> 2. Brief review of what's been completed since the previous meeting <anonimal> 3. Contributor FFS check-in / status <anonimal> 4. Code + ticket discussion / Q & A <anonimal> 5. Any additional meeting items <anonimal> 6. Confirm next meeting date/time <serhack> Greetings <serhack> Hello <anonimal> Hi <anonimal> Hello serhack <ArticMine> hi <serhack> hi ArticMine, hi Anonimal <i2p-relay> {-pigeons} howdy <anonimal> Hi ArticMine, hi pigeons <anonimal> 1.a: how's everyone doing? <rehrar> Well weren't there some things to go over regarding that ffs pr? <rehrar> Oh. We'll talk bout it later. <rehrar> In the meeting. <rehrar> Taking care of wife. We both doing ok. <anonimal> Good I hope. <rehrar> And hi. <rehrar> How're you anonimal? <anonimal> I wish her a speedy recovery. <anonimal> 2. Brief review of what's been completed since the previous meeting <rehrar> How's your transition going? <anonimal> lol, funny how you use the word "transition" (inside defcon joke, ping endogenic) <anonimal> I'm doing fine, thank you. <rehrar> Not much to report this past while cuz of the surgery. I'll be making up the time this week. <anonimal> re: 2., I spent most of the past two weeks AFK; busy with fedcon25 and the #monerola meetup (prep/travel/etc.) <anonimal> So busy with kovri promotion/discussion. As for repo work, I've been able to do documentation and site-related work. <rehrar> We missed thee. <anonimal> I'm also way past my milestone hours so I'll need to submit a milestone report to the FFS. <serhack> Anonimal: I have a lot of question about Kovri, I will connect to irc <anonimal> What else has been completed since the previous meeting? <anonimal> Yay, willkommen. <anonimal> rehrar have you been able to work on any kovri things? <endogenic> lol wait… transition? <rehrar> See my above comment. <anonimal> rehrar: oops, I just read your line (didn't see it) <anonimal> endogenic: Oh, I think it was more a pwrcycle inside joke. Nm. It was re: "Janet". <anonimal> But no, I'm not in transition, lol <anonimal> 3. Contributor FFS check-in / status <endogenic> ohhh <rehrar> I meant from anonymous to not. <endogenic> that makes sense <endogenic> lolo <moneromooo> Ah, I first thought the same, then talk of surgery, so I wasn't sure. <endogenic> yeah anonimal <endogenic> can imagine how concerned everyone was <rehrar> Nah. Surgery is my wife. She had some surgery on her eyes this week. <endogenic> dang <endogenic> everything ok? <rehrar> Ye. Her eyes strained at the computer where she works, so we got her Lasik. <endogenic> ohh <anonimal> re: 3., like I mentioned, I'll submit a milestone report. I use Kimai to keep detailed logs, down to the second, of all my billable activity. I'd like to submit those instead of writing TL;DR's but on the other hand I don't want all my time publicly tracked. I'll keep TL;DR's for the forum but have timesheets available for core team review if requested. <serhack> :O <anonimal> MoroccanMalinois is AFK I don't have an update on his FFS status. <anonimal> He did say he's submit something soon though. * anonimal shrugs <anonimal> rehrar: any kovri FFS plans? <moneromooo> FWIW, I was keeping track at 5 minute increments, then keeping it to myself. Never been a problem. It only would be with slackers I expect. <rehrar> Ummm FFS plans? <anonimal> k <anonimal> Yes, to have one if needed. <rehrar> alright, I'm here on IRC sorry for the delay. <anonimal> 4. Code + ticket discussion / Q & A <anonimal> re: point 4, and also going back to point 2, I did do a lengthy review of MoroccanMalinois' open PR #684. <anonimal> But other than that, I don't have any comments on point 4. Any questions? <anonimal> I did notice that the issue-helper on the meta repo appears to be in full swing and is looking good, pigeons. <anonimal> 5. Any additional meeting items <anonimal> Anyone interested in discussing quantum entanglement as a solution to nullifying the Alice/Bob relationship in order to eliminate the possibility of Eve? <ArticMine> Any reference on this? <anonimal> Not that I know of. It was something I started talking about while at fedcon25. <anonimal> But I need much more information. <moneromooo> wat <moneromooo> Wouldn't that need custom hardware that's nowhere near everyday buyers ? * anonimal is not a quantum specialist <ajsantos> so would that mean Eve is both Alice and Bob at the same time <anonimal> Probably, and probably a custom science too. <anonimal> What I mean is, AFAICT it's the only way to eliminate Eve and until then, anonymity will always have the potential to be broken. <anonimal> ajsantos: I don't know * anonimal will need to brush up on entanglement <anonimal> But if two points are guaranteed to only exist as a single unified point, I would imagine that Eve could not be Alice or Bob. * anonimal shrugs, #monero-future-futures <ArticMine> Ok Alice + Trump Bob = Jong-un Eve = ? <ArticMine> Alice = Trump <anonimal> Oh, one more thing, we'll have the 96boards.org podcast on August 17th. <anonimal> Details in meta/#46 <anonimal> Anything else or shall we wrap the meeting up early? <rehrar> nothing for me, sorry. I've got a lot going down atm, so I'm in and out intermittently <anonimal> Yes, Alice would = Bob so their state would be agreed upon at any given moment so long as they become entangled. <anonimal> Whether passive observation at that point is even possible, I don't know. <moneromooo> The only use of qe I know about is for Alice to send a message to Bob (ostensibly a key), in a way that Eve cannot eavesdrop on it without Bob being able to detect it. <moneromooo> (only use for crypto) <anonimal> I remember seeing a talk about that a while ago. re: anonmymity, I don't know if the concept of "hops" would apply though, and I don't know if "building a network of entangled points" would be an accurate solution to creating an anonymity set. <anonimal> So many questions! <moneromooo> AFAICT, the use of this would be to strengthen the crypto, which is already likely well armoured. <moneromooo> It wouldn't do anything for traffic analysis. <moneromooo> But then maybe there's more stuff qe can be used for... <moneromooo> You'd need to pre-share a LOT of bits if you did not want only the key to be sent, though. <moneromooo> And QE is EASY to collapse. <moneromooo> Actually, I don't know anything about this, ignore me. <ArticMine> It is a possible research topic at this point as far as I can see <anonimal> I'm not a huge fan of PQ discussion because of the number of everyday issues we're currently tackling but for some reason I am intrigued about this area. <anonimal> Yes, I would like to do more research and write something if needed. <anonimal> i.e., if it's not already been written. <anonimal> My FFS could cover it under "Research improving I2P and overlay-network security" and "Opening new proposals". <anonimal> Though I had imagined something more near-future tangible. We'll see. <anonimal> Eek, out of time. 6. Confirm next meeting date/time <anonimal> Same time, two weeks (August 20th)? <anonimal> Ok, thanks everyone :)