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post Overview and Logs for the Dev Meeting Held on 2016-05-22 Clarification regarding documentation (i.e. Github wiki, consolidating information), bit on Ring CT, discussion of open PRs
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May 22nd, 2016

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<fluffypony> ok <fluffypony> das meeting <ArticMine> has started <fluffypony> heh heh <xmrpromotions> let the fun begin <fluffypony> hyc, smooth, moneromooo, dEBRUYNE, gingeropolous, luigi1112, luigi1114, anyone I've missed <fluffypony> hokay so <fluffypony> first up: for those that haven't done so, please commit to the StackExchange proposal: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero <gingeropolous> oooh i get pinged for dev meetings? :) <xmrpromotions> and earn rep: https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/2542/stack-exchange-commitment-requirements <fluffypony> you're basically just committing to asking / answering a total of 10 questions over 3 months <fluffypony> also it would be advantageous if you have over 200 rep on another StackExchange site, as xmrpromotions said <fluffypony> I earned over 200 rep on bitcoin.stackexchange by answering like 4 questions, so it's not hard <fluffypony> ok maybe like 6 questions, but still, not hard <fluffypony> I think getting 200 committers in total will be easy, but having 100 committers with sufficient rep might be a little harder <fluffypony> ok so <fluffypony> PRs <fluffypony> over the last couple of weeks we've merged a few PRs <fluffypony> obviously <fluffypony> the biggest one being the performance branch <fluffypony> which was what warptangent was working on before he passed away <fluffypony> and which was completed by hyc and everyone else * dEBRUYNE pages tewinget, NoodleDoodle, ArticMine, othe <dEBRUYNE> probably missed someone <fluffypony> we are seeing some latent issues with auto-conversions, or that appear to be coming from the auto-conversion <fluffypony> if users hit issues with that the fastest route is for them to sync from scratch <fluffypony> iirc smooth has a broken conversion that we can use to analyse the issue <fluffypony> 810 and 775 are dangling <fluffypony> moneromooo: do you want those to stay open at present ? <moneromooo> 810 might be cancelled, not sure. <fluffypony> ok <moneromooo> 775 is ready AFAIK., <fluffypony> ok will test it <fluffypony> 818 is in a holding pattern pending some discussion; based on what shen has been doing lately my feeling is that we leave that till after RingCT is done <fluffypony> on that note, RingCT seems to be pushing ahead quite nicely <fluffypony> moneromooo: how's it looking from your side ? <moneromooo> I'm not a cryptographer, so I got no clue really :P <fluffypony> hah hah <moneromooo> Once I figure out what goes where, it's just code after that. <fluffypony> I know you're waiting for input from shen, but is it starting to make a bit of sense ? <moneromooo> Though a lot of it I think <fluffypony> kk <moneromooo> Mot yet, but I've not spent a lot of time on it today (and yesterday I was out). <fluffypony> alright <saddam> moneromooo: I want to decrypt it manually so I can detect transactions sent to an integrated address of mine in the tx pool. Is there another way to do it? <fluffypony> then next weekend I'll be at Bitcoin in Use in Arnhem, Netherlands <moneromooo> How will you know it's an integrated address of yours in the first place ? <fluffypony> and there will be several other Monero-er-ains there as well <fluffypony> including some devs, most notably hyc <xmrpromotions> a few ppl told me they want to meet you there:) <saddam> oh it's the meeting, sorry. I'll wait to discuss that later moneromooo <fluffypony> if anyone else is going to be there please let me know, we can do a Monero supper on the Saturday or something <fluffypony> next up is a chat about documentation <fluffypony> wallet42 has raised the idea of opening up the wiki on Github <xmrpromotions> https://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/731833882102910977 wants to meet you too <fluffypony> the advantages of this is that it keeps the documentation close to the code <fluffypony> and you can PR to the wiki or (I think) edit it inline <fluffypony> xmrpromotions: oh neat <fluffypony> in fact, the wiki creates a .wiki.git project that's invisible-ish <fluffypony> so it makes syncing to GitLab easy (setting up a GitLab mirror is on the list of things to do) <fluffypony> downside is that you can't edit it anonymously, although creating a GH account is trivial <fluffypony> and the other downside is that we have tons of scattered documentation right now <fluffypony> so my thinking is that the wiki is a good idea for documentation, BUT then we need to kill off all these other sources of info <dEBRUYNE> ^ I don't mind putting part of it together <fluffypony> so the Monero wikia has to be shuttered and that info moved over <ArticMine> There is information all over BCT <dEBRUYNE> we could put the guides from Moneroexamples over there too, but he doesn't necessarily have to shutdown his "source" imo <fluffypony> same goes for dev guides etc. on the website - we should instead spend the effort writing a small Ruby plugin for the site that pulls in info from the wiki and formats it appropriately <fluffypony> then the wiki becomes a primary source of info <fluffypony> dEBRUYNE: yeah we could do the same thing with MoneroExamples <fluffypony> just have a plugin that grabs it from his repos and formats it <fluffypony> if anyone has an issue with this speak now or forever hold your peace <i2p-relay> {-anonimal} Such consolidation sounds like a good idea. <dEBRUYNE> fluffypony: Yeah that'd be fine too <dEBRUYNE> as long as it consolidates the information to a central place it's fine <fluffypony> I'll leave the question open till the start of the Kovri meeting, if nobody has major objections raised by then I'll consider the decision in favour of the GitHub wiki <ArticMine> It is actually really needed We have info all over the place <fluffypony> (we discussed this here a few days ago as well, and everyone generally seemed in favour of it) <fluffypony> ArticMine: agreed <xmrpromotions> I like the idea. Consolidation and simplification should hopefully encourage more people to contribute to it <fluffypony> that's it from my side - next meeting will be on the 5th of May, same time <fluffypony> if anyone has anything they want to discuss, or any other points they want to bring up, now's the time <fluffypony> we have 20-ish minutes till the Kovri meeting <ArticMine> I am looking at the fee structure <moneromooo> Does anyone fancy hacking the pool code to check top hash ? <moneromooo> It shold be fairly easy. <i2p-relay> {-anonimal} fluffypony: s/May/June/ <dEBRUYNE> ArticMine: Is your research going to be put in a somewhat formal paper? <moneromooo> er, s/hacking/amending/ for the peanut gallery. <ArticMine> I'll start with a post on getmonero forum to get feedback ideas <ArticMine> then one can develop a paper <dEBRUYNE> all right <ArticMine> Along the lined of my prior post on BCT regarding the adaptive block limit and penalty function. There are issues with respect to to many options in fees with RingCT <dEBRUYNE> Is anyone willing to work on adding Monero to Bitsquare? Afaik it's only a few minor tweaks in the UI code, see issue here -> https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/issues/392 | I might be able to try if I got some more time, emphasis on try though <fluffypony> anonimal: thanks, lol <moneromooo> To th UI of... ? <dEBRUYNE> Bitsquare itself <dEBRUYNE> It needs an additional field for the tx key <moneromooo> Ah, I just saw the screenshot. <dEBRUYNE> It's mainly to resolve disputes, if any occur <dEBRUYNE> Btw fluffypony, any ETA on a new point release that includes the performance branch? Or are we awaiting any more PRs? <gingeropolous> ArticMine, i look forward to the adaptive fee structure thread <luigi1112> Oh high team <luigi1112> Hi team too <gingeropolous> hi luigi1112 <fluffypony> dEBRUYNE: more PRs, also gives us time to see if there are issues with auto-convert <fluffypony> *more issues <xmrpromotions> hi luigi1112 <moneromooo> What would I do if I wanted to try and repro that problem ? just pull, build, run ? <dEBRUYNE> fluffypony: all right <gingeropolous> im just curious... is 0mq gonna happen before ringCT? or ... or all at once? <fluffypony> moneromooo: yeah <fluffypony> gingeropolous: no clue <moneromooo> I'm certainly doing nothing about it. <gingeropolous> well there's months until the next hardfork... though i guess 0mq doesn't affect consensus protocols? <dEBRUYNE> well it was either Ring CT or 0MQ for you afaik moneromooo and I think we decided last time that Ring CT was the priority (this is just to clarify to anyone reading) <fluffypony> ok starting the meeting relay for the Kovri meeting