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title: Logs for the Kovri Dev Meeting Held on 2016-05-22 title: Logs for the Kovri Dev Meeting Held on 2016-05-22
summary: Review assigned open tickets: status, code ideas (if applicable), etc. and some additional meeting items summary: GNU Social status, Kovri website, i2p StackExchange, Coverity for Kovri
tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto] tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto]
author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony
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*May 22nd, 2016* *May 22nd, 2016*
# Logs # Logs
**\<fluffypony>** ok starting the meeting relay for the Kovri meeting **\<fluffypony>** ok starting the meeting relay for the Kovri meeting
**\<meeting-bot>** [anonimal] Hello. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Hello.
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: all yours :) **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: all yours :)
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** From https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/issues/177 **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** From https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/issues/177
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** Proposed meeting items: **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** Proposed meeting items:
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 17:00 (UTC) **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 17:00 (UTC)
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 1. Review assigned open tickets: status, code ideas (if applicable), etc. **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 1. Review assigned open tickets: status, code ideas (if applicable), etc.
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 2. Any additional meeting items **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 2. Any additional meeting items
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 3. Confirm next meeting date/time **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 3. Confirm next meeting date/time
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** Starting with 1., as discussed in private with fluffypony, let's tackle https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/issues/assigned/fluffypony **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** Starting with 1., as discussed in private with fluffypony, let's tackle https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/issues/assigned/fluffypony
**\<fluffypony>** hokay - should we do them one at a time ? **\<fluffypony>** hokay - should we do them one at a time ?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Sure, #105. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Sure, #105.
**\<fluffypony>** sec, just opening it up **\<fluffypony>** sec, just opening it up
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm more curious about status updates and if we'll pursue some of these ideas. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm more curious about status updates and if we'll pursue some of these ideas.
**\<fluffypony>** ok 107 **\<fluffypony>** ok 107
**\<fluffypony>** I asked dEBRUYNE and the rest of the social media guys about that in January last **\<fluffypony>** I asked dEBRUYNE and the rest of the social media guys about that in January last
**\<fluffypony>** dEBRUYNE: have you guys looked at that at all ? **\<fluffypony>** dEBRUYNE: have you guys looked at that at all ?
**\<dEBRUYNE>** I think xmrpromotions was handling that **\<dEBRUYNE>** I think xmrpromotions was handling that
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** JFTR: s/107/105/ **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** JFTR: s/107/105/
**\<dEBRUYNE>** I honestly cannot remember you asking me :-P **\<dEBRUYNE>** I honestly cannot remember you asking me :-P
**\* fluffypony** has the IRC logs to prove it :-P **\* fluffypony** has the IRC logs to prove it :-P
**\<dEBRUYNE>** regardless, I think xmrpromotions was handling most of that :-P **\<dEBRUYNE>** regardless, I think xmrpromotions was handling most of that :-P
**\<fluffypony>** ok - xmrpromotions, did you have a chance to look at GNU Social ? **\<fluffypony>** ok - xmrpromotions, did you have a chance to look at GNU Social ?
**\<ArticMine>** I am looking at GNU social right now **\<ArticMine>** I am looking at GNU social right now
**\<xmrpromotions>** I am sorry but I have not **\<xmrpromotions>** I am sorry but I have not
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Can I ask everone, candidly, what they think of the idea? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Can I ask everone, candidly, what they think of the idea?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Is it something worth pursuing? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Is it something worth pursuing?
**\<ArticMine>** My initial instinct is yes **\<ArticMine>** My initial instinct is yes
**\<fluffypony>** tbh I had hardly heard about GNU Social till you brought it up **\<fluffypony>** tbh I had hardly heard about GNU Social till you brought it up
**\<xmrpromotions>** Are there more details I can read about it? https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/issues/105 **\<xmrpromotions>** Are there more details I can read about it? https://github.com/monero-project/kovri/issues/105
**\<fluffypony>** but I think in terms of providing a more freedom-friendly social presence it's advantageous **\<fluffypony>** but I think in terms of providing a more freedom-friendly social presence it's advantageous
**\<fluffypony>** plus if we can spend the energy maintaining a Facebook page we can definitely justify this... :-P **\<fluffypony>** plus if we can spend the energy maintaining a Facebook page we can definitely justify this... :-P
**\<ArticMine>** Way better than a Facebook page **\<ArticMine>** Way better than a Facebook page
**\<ArticMine>** There are many who dislike the corporate centralization of Facebook in social media **\<ArticMine>** There are many who dislike the corporate centralization of Facebook in social media
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** xmrpromotions: A great example of a working instance is https://quitter.se/ **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** xmrpromotions: A great example of a working instance is https://quitter.se/
**\<__uguu__>** facebook is currently actively banning users that talk about the censorship too so... **\<__uguu__>** facebook is currently actively banning users that talk about the censorship too so...
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** xmrpromortions: For technical details, https://gnu.io/social/ **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** xmrpromortions: For technical details, https://gnu.io/social/
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** lol, sorry, not auto-completion here **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** lol, sorry, not auto-completion here
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yes, recent news items re: censorship just get crazier and crazier. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yes, recent news items re: censorship just get crazier and crazier.
**\<xmrpromotions>** Thank you I will read the details and be ready to comment later. It is too early for me to commit to anything quite yet **\<xmrpromotions>** Thank you I will read the details and be ready to comment later. It is too early for me to commit to anything quite yet
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** And the social monopolies are finally showing their true colors. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** And the social monopolies are finally showing their true colors.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so #105 is on hold pending xmrpromotions' review? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so #105 is on hold pending xmrpromotions' review?
**\<fluffypony>** yup **\<fluffypony>** yup
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, next ticket. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, next ticket.
**\<fluffypony>** ok **\<fluffypony>** ok
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** #46 **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** #46
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** The Kovri website. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** The Kovri website.
**\<fluffypony>** #46 - does anyone have any strong opinions on whether it should be a page on the Monero website, or a separate site that matches the Monero site's look and feel (maybe with different colours), or a completely unrelated site ? **\<fluffypony>** #46 - does anyone have any strong opinions on whether it should be a page on the Monero website, or a separate site that matches the Monero site's look and feel (maybe with different colours), or a completely unrelated site ?
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: and your input on this would be appreciated too **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: and your input on this would be appreciated too
**\<fluffypony>** I think the relay is wonky **\<fluffypony>** I think the relay is wonky
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** What's the time-cost in terms of managing two sites? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** What's the time-cost in terms of managing two sites?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yes, missed almost everything it looks like. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yes, missed almost everything it looks like.
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: it's mostly just the initial work, after that I mostly go hands-off and let the community run with the content **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: it's mostly just the initial work, after that I mostly go hands-off and let the community run with the content
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Can anyone read this? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Can anyone read this?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so could we start small with a page on the website, or maybe subdomain/ and if things get bigger move onto another site? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so could we start small with a page on the website, or maybe subdomain/ and if things get bigger move onto another site?
**\<fluffypony>** that would be my recommendation **\<fluffypony>** that would be my recommendation
**\<fluffypony>** we start with a sub-section on the Monero site **\<fluffypony>** we start with a sub-section on the Monero site
**\<fluffypony>** and forward the kovri site through to it **\<fluffypony>** and forward the kovri site through to it
**\<fluffypony>** if we feel the need later on we can create a separate site on its own **\<fluffypony>** if we feel the need later on we can create a separate site on its own
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, sounds good to me. Anyone else? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, sounds good to me. Anyone else?
**\<xmrpromotions>** Of the three options mentioned a separate site that matches the Monero site's look and feel may help draw a wider audience than a page on the Monero site while at the same time anyone who visits the Kovri page knows that Monero is associated with it **\<xmrpromotions>** Of the three options mentioned a separate site that matches the Monero site's look and feel may help draw a wider audience than a page on the Monero site while at the same time anyone who visits the Kovri page knows that Monero is associated with it
**\<xmrpromotions>** It seems like a judgement call to me. Either plan sounds reasonable **\<xmrpromotions>** It seems like a judgement call to me. Either plan sounds reasonable
**\<fluffypony>** restarting meeting bot **\<fluffypony>** restarting meeting bot
**\<fluffypony>** in fact, if you want to write up some content for me I'll do it on the plane on Tuesday **\<fluffypony>** in fact, if you want to write up some content for me I'll do it on the plane on Tuesday
**\<fluffypony>** in fact, I can probably take most of it from the readme **\<fluffypony>** in fact, I can probably take most of it from the readme
**\<fluffypony>** in fact, if I say in fact again I'll summon the in-fact-bot **\<fluffypony>** in fact, if I say in fact again I'll summon the in-fact-bot
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, ideas for content? I can blabber but ideas are welcome. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, ideas for content? I can blabber but ideas are welcome.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** ping in-fact-bot **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** ping in-fact-bot
**\<xmrpromotions>** Any thoughts on creating a stackexchange proposal for I2P? Tor has a page now https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/56447/tor and we should be able to reach the commitment stage quickly with the same supporters behind the Monero proposal? **\<xmrpromotions>** Any thoughts on creating a stackexchange proposal for I2P? Tor has a page now https://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/56447/tor and we should be able to reach the commitment stage quickly with the same supporters behind the Monero proposal?
**\<fluffypony>** xmrpromotions: we'd have to run it past zzz, at the very least **\<fluffypony>** xmrpromotions: we'd have to run it past zzz, at the very least
**\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** zzz ^^ **\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** zzz ^^
**\<xmrpromotions>** sorry for off topic idea. I can table it for later if appropriate **\<xmrpromotions>** sorry for off topic idea. I can table it for later if appropriate
**\<fluffypony> no I think it's an excellent idea, if the i2p community at large is interested then now is definitely the time **\<fluffypony> no I think it's an excellent idea, if the i2p community at large is interested then now is definitely the time
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** From what I've seen, alot of great ideas come and go through #i2p-dev but it always comes down to resources. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** From what I've seen, alot of great ideas come and go through #i2p-dev but it always comes down to resources.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I think we'd all love that but someone will have to take the initiative. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I think we'd all love that but someone will have to take the initiative.
**\<xmrpromotions>** I will take the initiative on that **\<xmrpromotions>** I will take the initiative on that
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** AFAICT all i2p-related dev (including Kovri) is in a bit of a dry spell so, priorities. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** AFAICT all i2p-related dev (including Kovri) is in a bit of a dry spell so, priorities.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I like the idea though. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I like the idea though.
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: the advantage is that we can basically get everyone who's committed to the Monero proposal to also back an i2p proposal **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: the advantage is that we can basically get everyone who's committed to the Monero proposal to also back an i2p proposal
**\<fluffypony>** but now is the time to do so **\<fluffypony>** but now is the time to do so
**\<fluffypony>** whilst everyone's excited **\<fluffypony>** whilst everyone's excited
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so what's the next step? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so what's the next step?
**\<xmrpromotions>** If the I2P communty supports it. As fluffypony said now is the time as the synergy will help both I2P and Monero proposals pass faster for REP related reasons **\<xmrpromotions>** If the I2P communty supports it. As fluffypony said now is the time as the synergy will help both I2P and Monero proposals pass faster for REP related reasons
**\<fluffypony>** so basically next step on the website is let's get a bit of content and I'll put it together on the plane on Tuesday **\<fluffypony>** so basically next step on the website is let's get a bit of content and I'll put it together on the plane on Tuesday
**\<fluffypony>** next step on the StackExchange proposal is to wait for feedback from zzz **\<fluffypony>** next step on the StackExchange proposal is to wait for feedback from zzz
**\<xmrpromotions>** sounds good. I wont act until I hear confirmation that zzz is ready to proceed **\<xmrpromotions>** sounds good. I wont act until I hear confirmation that zzz is ready to proceed
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I dropped a line in #i2p-dev. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I dropped a line in #i2p-dev.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** We'll see who bites. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** We'll see who bites.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so #46: 1) create content 2) On Tuesday, fluffypony will put something together 3) ETA after that? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, so #46: 1) create content 2) On Tuesday, fluffypony will put something together 3) ETA after that?
**\<fluffypony>** ok next ticket ? **\<fluffypony>** ok next ticket ?
**\<fluffypony>** oh **\<fluffypony>** oh
**\<fluffypony>** once it's pushed to the repo it goes live **\<fluffypony>** once it's pushed to the repo it goes live
**\<fluffypony>** there's no ETA beyond that **\<fluffypony>** there's no ETA beyond that
**\<fluffypony>** or no steps beyond pulling it and rebuilding the Jekyll site **\<fluffypony>** or no steps beyond pulling it and rebuilding the Jekyll site
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok great, I'll paste a note in ticket. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok great, I'll paste a note in ticket.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Moving on, #43. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Moving on, #43.
**\<fluffypony>** ok - can we just use the Monero addresses, or do we want separate addresses? **\<fluffypony>** ok - can we just use the Monero addresses, or do we want separate addresses?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm fine with Monero addresses. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm fine with Monero addresses.
**\<fluffypony>** ok then they're avialable here, anonimal: http://donate.getmonero.org **\<fluffypony>** ok then they're avialable here, anonimal: http://donate.getmonero.org
**\<fluffypony>** *available **\<fluffypony>** *available
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok. Also, I can apply for FFS when needed or include my address somewhere or we can simply put a note in README to donate to either. Sound fair? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok. Also, I can apply for FFS when needed or include my address somewhere or we can simply put a note in README to donate to either. Sound fair?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Or no? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Or no?
**\<othe>** ffs is prolly more efficient **\<othe>** ffs is prolly more efficient
**\<fluffypony>** FFS is better than direct donations **\<fluffypony>** FFS is better than direct donations
**\<fluffypony>** and it's generally more trustworthy because you raise funds for a specific piece of work, and then get paid out on milestones **\<fluffypony>** and it's generally more trustworthy because you raise funds for a specific piece of work, and then get paid out on milestones
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, we should put a note in README directing to FFS and donation page or just FFS? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, we should put a note in README directing to FFS and donation page or just FFS?
**\<fluffypony>** the readme just needs the donation page **\<fluffypony>** the readme just needs the donation page
**\<fluffypony>** if we get large donations we redistribute them to active FFS proposals anyway **\<fluffypony>** if we get large donations we redistribute them to active FFS proposals anyway
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: Ok, would you like to add that with your wording to the README? Or should I? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: Ok, would you like to add that with your wording to the README? Or should I?
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: I have to pack tomorrow, and have a bunch of things to do, so if you could that would be appreciated **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: I have to pack tomorrow, and have a bunch of things to do, so if you could that would be appreciated
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Moving on, #27 **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Moving on, #27
**\<fluffypony>** ok #27 is going to have to hold for a week or two, we're busy moving email providers on getmonero.org so I'll sort it out on the new provider **\<fluffypony>** ok #27 is going to have to hold for a week or two, we're busy moving email providers on getmonero.org so I'll sort it out on the new provider
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, I'll paste that note. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, I'll paste that note.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Onward to #20. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Onward to #20.
**\<fluffypony>** 20 - I can try Coverity again, let's see if it gives me the same issue **\<fluffypony>** 20 - I can try Coverity again, let's see if it gives me the same issue
**\<fluffypony>** I've not heard from them despite opening tickets etc. **\<fluffypony>** I've not heard from them despite opening tickets etc.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Links? Maybe I can comment/ping them too. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Links? Maybe I can comment/ping them too.
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: screenshots and process I followed is in that ticket **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: screenshots and process I followed is in that ticket
**\<fluffypony>** issue I mean **\<fluffypony>** issue I mean
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, well, it may come down to a phone call or two. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, well, it may come down to a phone call or two.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Is that something you'd be willing to do? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Is that something you'd be willing to do?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** If not, we can skip the integration and try to do it manually. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** If not, we can skip the integration and try to do it manually.
**\<fluffypony>** sure **\<fluffypony>** sure
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, next. #90 is not assigned to you but I remember you said you would assign yourself. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, next. #90 is not assigned to you but I remember you said you would assign yourself.
**\<fluffypony>** one second just checking coverity **\<fluffypony>** one second just checking coverity
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Is #90 still of interest? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Is #90 still of interest?
**\<fluffypony>** oooooh it works **\<fluffypony>** oooooh it works
**\<fluffypony>** they must've fixed it and just not let us know **\<fluffypony>** they must've fixed it and just not let us know
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: I'll PM you with coverity details **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: I'll PM you with coverity details
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Fantastic! **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Fantastic!
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yay, great. This should be interesting. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yay, great. This should be interesting.
**\<gingeropolous>** will I break things if I create a bridge by connecting simplewallet to the daemon over an i2p tunnel? **\<gingeropolous>** will I break things if I create a bridge by connecting simplewallet to the daemon over an i2p tunnel?
**\<fluffypony>** doubtful **\<fluffypony>** doubtful
**\<meeting-bot>** [anonimal] fluffypony: #90? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: #90?
**\<fluffypony>** 90 will happen automagically when our GitLab mirror is up **\<fluffypony>** 90 will happen automagically when our GitLab mirror is up
**\<fluffypony>** it'll have clearnet / Tor / i2p mirrors **\<fluffypony>** it'll have clearnet / Tor / i2p mirrors
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok then. I've missed any discussions about that in the past, is there an ETA? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok then. I've missed any discussions about that in the past, is there an ETA?
**\<fluffypony>** not at the moment - it's one of those "on the list" things, I lack the time to knuckle down and do it **\<fluffypony>** not at the moment - it's one of those "on the list" things, I lack the time to knuckle down and do it
**\<fluffypony>** we need a devops team :-P **\<fluffypony>** we need a devops team :-P
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Indeed. Ok, I'll add a note in ticket. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Indeed. Ok, I'll add a note in ticket.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** To whom should we assign #90 then? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** To whom should we assign #90 then?
**\<fluffypony>** me **\<fluffypony>** me
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, will do. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, will do.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yay, hour long of fluffypony tickets finally tackled! I'm glad we finally had the time. Any other comments them? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Yay, hour long of fluffypony tickets finally tackled! I'm glad we finally had the time. Any other comments them?
**\<fluffypony>** none from my side **\<fluffypony>** none from my side
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, since this was the "fluffypony show" meeting, for time-sake I'll sum up my part of 1. with one line: **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, since this was the "fluffypony show" meeting, for time-sake I'll sum up my part of 1. with one line:
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm not working on any tickets ATM but what will most likely be a new ticket soon as I'm working on Transports (mostly NTCP, little SSU): debugging/refactoring/c++14 refactoring where appropriate/some rewrite/some new code/documentation/improved logging **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** I'm not working on any tickets ATM but what will most likely be a new ticket soon as I'm working on Transports (mostly NTCP, little SSU): debugging/refactoring/c++14 refactoring where appropriate/some rewrite/some new code/documentation/improved logging
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, that's that for now, I'm sure more code talk can be at the next meeting. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, that's that for now, I'm sure more code talk can be at the next meeting.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Any additional meeting items (quickly)? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Any additional meeting items (quickly)?
**\<fluffypony>** nothing more from me **\<fluffypony>** nothing more from me
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Re: StackExchange, what tl;dr can I give to #i2p-dev? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Re: StackExchange, what tl;dr can I give to #i2p-dev?
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Aside from pointing a link to the meeting log. **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Aside from pointing a link to the meeting log.
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** (I've been out of the loop re: the initiative) **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** (I've been out of the loop re: the initiative)
**\<xmrpromotions>** Just say that we are willing to cross promote it to XMR community and expect it to reach the commitment stage fairly fasy **\<xmrpromotions>** Just say that we are willing to cross promote it to XMR community and expect it to reach the commitment stage fairly fasy
**\<xmrpromotions>** fast **\<xmrpromotions>** fast
**\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** just that it's a proposal to have an i2p-specific StackExchange area **\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** just that it's a proposal to have an i2p-specific StackExchange area
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, what should we expect from them? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** So, what should we expect from them?
**\<xmrpromotions>** from there the I2P and XMR communities can help each other ensure both site reach beta **\<xmrpromotions>** from there the I2P and XMR communities can help each other ensure both site reach beta
**\<hyc>** if kovri mtg is done, a comment on monero perf auto-convert. we know that for 32bit the conversion will fail due to a too-large txn when deleting one of the txs indices **\<xmrpromotions>** Hard for me to make an ETA on that. End result would be an I2P site similar to what Tor has now
**\<xmrpromotions>** Hard for me to make an ETA on that. End result would be an I2P site similar to what Tor has now **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: should we end meeting?
**\<hyc>** aside from that has anyone determined whether the convert errors were only in the old migrator code, or have they had problems with the newest code? **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** (or has it ended?)
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** fluffypony: should we end meeting? **\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** yes I think so
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** (or has it ended?) **\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** I'll take the bot down
**\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** yes I think so **\<xmrpromotions>** We need I2P experts to appear during the proposal stage once created to ask good questions
**\<meeting-bot> [fluffypony]** I'll take the bot down **\<xmrpromotions>** early questions attract a lot more votes and rise to the top, so quality matters
**\<xmrpromotions>** We need I2P experts to appear during the proposal stage once created to ask good questions **\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, I'll chat in #monero-dev.
**\<xmrpromotions>** early questions attract a lot more votes and rise to the top, so quality matters **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** * thinking
**\<meeting-bot> [anonimal]** Ok, I'll chat in #monero-dev. **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** xmrpromotions: I can commit to both pages. How many I2P 'experts' would need to commit?
**\<fluffypony>** hyc: there were two people who encountered issues after we merged into master, and I don't think they were testing anything pre-merge **\<xmrpromotions>** well we need 40 good questions. each person can only ask 5
**\<fluffypony>** so newest code **\<fluffypony>** well before commitment it's just the voting section
**\<hyc>** ok **\<xmrpromotions>** Our initial 40 questions will help with SEO after launch
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** * thinking **\<fluffypony>** where we need not only good questions asked, but also good questions have to get 10 votes each
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** xmrpromotions: I can commit to both pages. How many I2P 'experts' would need to commit? **\<xmrpromotions>** Yes I mean we need to create quality questions to vote on
**\<xmrpromotions>** well we need 40 good questions. each person can only ask 5 **\<xmrpromotions>** If someone wants to create a list of 40 great questions that would be perfect
**\<fluffypony>** well before commitment it's just the voting section **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** 40 great I2P questions, I could do that.
**\<xmrpromotions>** Our initial 40 questions will help with SEO after launch **\<fluffypony>** they still have to post them though
**\<fluffypony>** where we need not only good questions asked, but also good questions have to get 10 votes each **\<xmrpromotions>** then we can divide it up and ask 5 each to make sure no silly questions gain a lot of votes early in the process
**\<xmrpromotions>** Yes I mean we need to create quality questions to vote on **\<xmrpromotions>** we can find 8 people to post 5 questions each easily
**\<xmrpromotions>** If someone wants to create a list of 40 great questions that would be perfect **\<fluffypony>** yup
**\<i2p-relay>** {-anonimal} 40 great I2P questions, I could do that. **\<fluffypony>** yeah, then we need a bunch of people to upvote :)
**\<fluffypony>** they still have to post them though **\<xmrpromotions>** I dont think voting will be a problem either. XMR users with no rep can be assigned to ask the questions... that will give them 5x10x5 rep (250 each)
**\<xmrpromotions>** then we can divide it up and ask 5 each to make sure no silly questions gain a lot of votes early in the process **\<xmrpromotions>** which will give them more than enough for the 200 rep area 51 cutoff for the SE 100 rep account association bonus
**\<xmrpromotions>** we can find 8 people to post 5 questions each easily **\<fluffypony>** strategyyyy
**\<fluffypony>** yup **\<xmrpromotions>** 5q with 10 votes each will earn 5 rep per vote
**\<fluffypony>** yeah, then we need a bunch of people to upvote :) **\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** Ok, sounds great. Right now, I need to finish post-meeting wrap-up, take a break, get my brain in order and bbl.
**\<xmrpromotions>** I dont think voting will be a problem either. XMR users with no rep can be assigned to ask the questions... that will give them 5x10x5 rep (250 each) **\<fluffypony>** ok cool
**\<xmrpromotions>** which will give them more than enough for the 200 rep area 51 cutoff for the SE 100 rep account association bonus **\<xmrpromotions>** I will make a post in the getmonero forums. Maybe we can create and agree on a list of 40 questions there before we start
**\<fluffypony>** strategyyyy **\<xmrpromotions>** thanks everyone. have a great weekend
**\<xmrpromotions>** 5q with 10 votes each will earn 5 rep per vote
**\<i2p-relay> {-anonimal}** Ok, sounds great. Right now, I need to finish post-meeting wrap-up, take a break, get my brain in order and bbl.
**\<fluffypony>** ok cool
**\<xmrpromotions>** I will make a post in the getmonero forums. Maybe we can create and agree on a list of 40 questions there before we start
**\<xmrpromotions>** thanks everyone. have a great weekend
**\<fluffypony>** cheers **\<fluffypony>** cheers

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title: Overview and Logs for the Dev Meeting Held on 2016-05-22 title: Overview and Logs for the Dev Meeting Held on 2016-05-22
summary: Clarification regarding documentation (i.e. Github wiki, consolidating information), bit on Ring CT, discussion of open PRs summary: Decisions on PRs still open, performance branch conversion problems, consolidating dev documentation on the GH wiki
tags: [dev diaries, core, crypto] tags: [dev diaries, core, crypto]
author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony
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# Logs # Logs
**\<fluffypony>** ok **\<fluffypony>** ok
**\<fluffypony>** das meeting **\<fluffypony>** das meeting
**\<ArticMine>** has started **\<ArticMine>** has started
**\<fluffypony>** heh heh **\<fluffypony>** heh heh
**\<xmrpromotions>** let the fun begin **\<xmrpromotions>** let the fun begin
**\<fluffypony>** hyc, smooth, moneromooo, dEBRUYNE, gingeropolous, luigi1112, luigi1114, anyone I've missed **\<fluffypony>** hyc, smooth, moneromooo, dEBRUYNE, gingeropolous, luigi1112, luigi1114, anyone I've missed
**\<fluffypony>** hokay so **\<fluffypony>** hokay so
**\<fluffypony>** first up: for those that haven't done so, please commit to the StackExchange proposal: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero **\<fluffypony>** first up: for those that haven't done so, please commit to the StackExchange proposal: http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/98617/monero
**\<gingeropolous>** oooh i get pinged for dev meetings? :) **\<gingeropolous>** oooh i get pinged for dev meetings? :)
**\<xmrpromotions>** and earn rep: https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/2542/stack-exchange-commitment-requirements **\<xmrpromotions>** and earn rep: https://forum.getmonero.org/20/general-discussion/2542/stack-exchange-commitment-requirements
**\<fluffypony>** you're basically just committing to asking / answering a total of 10 questions over 3 months **\<fluffypony>** you're basically just committing to asking / answering a total of 10 questions over 3 months
**\<fluffypony>** also it would be advantageous if you have over 200 rep on another StackExchange site, as xmrpromotions said **\<fluffypony>** also it would be advantageous if you have over 200 rep on another StackExchange site, as xmrpromotions said
**\<fluffypony>** I earned over 200 rep on bitcoin.stackexchange by answering like 4 questions, so it's not hard **\<fluffypony>** I earned over 200 rep on bitcoin.stackexchange by answering like 4 questions, so it's not hard
**\<fluffypony>** ok maybe like 6 questions, but still, not hard **\<fluffypony>** ok maybe like 6 questions, but still, not hard
**\<fluffypony>** I think getting 200 committers in total will be easy, but having 100 committers with sufficient rep might be a little harder **\<fluffypony>** I think getting 200 committers in total will be easy, but having 100 committers with sufficient rep might be a little harder
**\<fluffypony>** ok so **\<fluffypony>** ok so
**\<fluffypony>** PRs **\<fluffypony>** PRs
**\<fluffypony>** over the last couple of weeks we've merged a few PRs **\<fluffypony>** over the last couple of weeks we've merged a few PRs
**\<fluffypony>** obviously **\<fluffypony>** obviously
**\<fluffypony>** the biggest one being the performance branch **\<fluffypony>** the biggest one being the performance branch
**\<fluffypony>** which was what warptangent was working on before he passed away **\<fluffypony>** which was what warptangent was working on before he passed away
**\<fluffypony>** and which was completed by hyc and everyone else **\<fluffypony>** and which was completed by hyc and everyone else
**\* dEBRUYNE** pages tewinget, NoodleDoodle, ArticMine, othe **\* dEBRUYNE** pages tewinget, NoodleDoodle, ArticMine, othe
**\<dEBRUYNE>** probably missed someone **\<dEBRUYNE>** probably missed someone
**\<fluffypony>** we are seeing some latent issues with auto-conversions, or that appear to be coming from the auto-conversion **\<fluffypony>** we are seeing some latent issues with auto-conversions, or that appear to be coming from the auto-conversion
**\<fluffypony>** if users hit issues with that the fastest route is for them to sync from scratch **\<fluffypony>** if users hit issues with that the fastest route is for them to sync from scratch
**\<fluffypony>** iirc smooth has a broken conversion that we can use to analyse the issue **\<fluffypony>** iirc smooth has a broken conversion that we can use to analyse the issue
**\<fluffypony>** 810 and 775 are dangling **\<fluffypony>** 810 and 775 are dangling
**\<fluffypony>** moneromooo: do you want those to stay open at present ? **\<fluffypony>** moneromooo: do you want those to stay open at present ?
**\<moneromooo>** 810 might be cancelled, not sure. **\<moneromooo>** 810 might be cancelled, not sure.
**\<fluffypony>** ok **\<fluffypony>** ok
**\<moneromooo>** 775 is ready AFAIK., **\<moneromooo>** 775 is ready AFAIK.,
**\<fluffypony>** ok will test it **\<fluffypony>** ok will test it
**\<fluffypony>** 818 is in a holding pattern pending some discussion; based on what shen has been doing lately my feeling is that we leave that till after RingCT is done **\<fluffypony>** 818 is in a holding pattern pending some discussion; based on what shen has been doing lately my feeling is that we leave that till after RingCT is done
**\<fluffypony>** on that note, RingCT seems to be pushing ahead quite nicely **\<fluffypony>** on that note, RingCT seems to be pushing ahead quite nicely
**\<fluffypony>** moneromooo: how's it looking from your side ? **\<fluffypony>** moneromooo: how's it looking from your side ?
**\<moneromooo>** I'm not a cryptographer, so I got no clue really :P **\<moneromooo>** I'm not a cryptographer, so I got no clue really :P
**\<fluffypony>** hah hah **\<fluffypony>** hah hah
**\<moneromooo>** Once I figure out what goes where, it's just code after that. **\<moneromooo>** Once I figure out what goes where, it's just code after that.
**\<fluffypony>** I know you're waiting for input from shen, but is it starting to make a bit of sense ? **\<fluffypony>** I know you're waiting for input from shen, but is it starting to make a bit of sense ?
**\<moneromooo>** Though a lot of it I think **\<moneromooo>** Though a lot of it I think
**\<fluffypony>** kk **\<fluffypony>** kk
**\<moneromooo>** Mot yet, but I've not spent a lot of time on it today (and yesterday I was out). **\<moneromooo>** Mot yet, but I've not spent a lot of time on it today (and yesterday I was out).
**\<fluffypony>** alright **\<fluffypony>** alright
**\<saddam>** moneromooo: I want to decrypt it manually so I can detect transactions sent to an integrated address of mine in the tx pool. Is there another way to do it? **\<saddam>** moneromooo: I want to decrypt it manually so I can detect transactions sent to an integrated address of mine in the tx pool. Is there another way to do it?
**\<fluffypony>** then next weekend I'll be at Bitcoin in Use in Arnhem, Netherlands **\<fluffypony>** then next weekend I'll be at Bitcoin in Use in Arnhem, Netherlands
**\<moneromooo>** How will you know it's an integrated address of yours in the first place ? **\<moneromooo>** How will you know it's an integrated address of yours in the first place ?
**\<fluffypony>** and there will be several other Monero-er-ains there as well **\<fluffypony>** and there will be several other Monero-er-ains there as well
**\<fluffypony>** including some devs, most notably hyc **\<fluffypony>** including some devs, most notably hyc
**\<xmrpromotions>** a few ppl told me they want to meet you there:) **\<xmrpromotions>** a few ppl told me they want to meet you there:)
**\<saddam>** oh it's the meeting, sorry. I'll wait to discuss that later moneromooo **\<saddam>** oh it's the meeting, sorry. I'll wait to discuss that later moneromooo
**\<fluffypony>** if anyone else is going to be there please let me know, we can do a Monero supper on the Saturday or something **\<fluffypony>** if anyone else is going to be there please let me know, we can do a Monero supper on the Saturday or something
**\<fluffypony>** next up is a chat about documentation **\<fluffypony>** next up is a chat about documentation
**\<fluffypony>** wallet42 has raised the idea of opening up the wiki on Github **\<fluffypony>** wallet42 has raised the idea of opening up the wiki on Github
**\<xmrpromotions>** https://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/731833882102910977 wants to meet you too **\<xmrpromotions>** https://twitter.com/Falkvinge/status/731833882102910977 wants to meet you too
**\<fluffypony>** the advantages of this is that it keeps the documentation close to the code **\<fluffypony>** the advantages of this is that it keeps the documentation close to the code
**\<fluffypony>** and you can PR to the wiki or (I think) edit it inline **\<fluffypony>** and you can PR to the wiki or (I think) edit it inline
**\<fluffypony>** xmrpromotions: oh neat **\<fluffypony>** xmrpromotions: oh neat
**\<fluffypony>** in fact, the wiki creates a .wiki.git project that's invisible-ish **\<fluffypony>** in fact, the wiki creates a .wiki.git project that's invisible-ish
**\<fluffypony>** so it makes syncing to GitLab easy (setting up a GitLab mirror is on the list of things to do) **\<fluffypony>** so it makes syncing to GitLab easy (setting up a GitLab mirror is on the list of things to do)
**\<fluffypony>** downside is that you can't edit it anonymously, although creating a GH account is trivial **\<fluffypony>** downside is that you can't edit it anonymously, although creating a GH account is trivial
**\<fluffypony>** and the other downside is that we have tons of scattered documentation right now **\<fluffypony>** and the other downside is that we have tons of scattered documentation right now
**\<fluffypony>** so my thinking is that the wiki is a good idea for documentation, BUT then we need to kill off all these other sources of info **\<fluffypony>** so my thinking is that the wiki is a good idea for documentation, BUT then we need to kill off all these other sources of info
**\<dEBRUYNE>** ^ I don't mind putting part of it together **\<dEBRUYNE>** ^ I don't mind putting part of it together
**\<fluffypony>** so the Monero wikia has to be shuttered and that info moved over **\<fluffypony>** so the Monero wikia has to be shuttered and that info moved over
**\<ArticMine>** There is information all over BCT **\<ArticMine>** There is information all over BCT
**\<dEBRUYNE>** we could put the guides from Moneroexamples over there too, but he doesn't necessarily have to shutdown his "source" imo **\<dEBRUYNE>** we could put the guides from Moneroexamples over there too, but he doesn't necessarily have to shutdown his "source" imo
**\<fluffypony>** same goes for dev guides etc. on the website - we should instead spend the effort writing a small Ruby plugin for the site that pulls in info from the wiki and formats it appropriately **\<fluffypony>** same goes for dev guides etc. on the website - we should instead spend the effort writing a small Ruby plugin for the site that pulls in info from the wiki and formats it appropriately
**\<fluffypony>** then the wiki becomes a primary source of info **\<fluffypony>** then the wiki becomes a primary source of info
**\<fluffypony>** dEBRUYNE: yeah we could do the same thing with MoneroExamples **\<fluffypony>** dEBRUYNE: yeah we could do the same thing with MoneroExamples
**\<fluffypony>** just have a plugin that grabs it from his repos and formats it **\<fluffypony>** just have a plugin that grabs it from his repos and formats it
**\<fluffypony>** if anyone has an issue with this speak now or forever hold your peace **\<fluffypony>** if anyone has an issue with this speak now or forever hold your peace
**\<i2p-relay>** {-anonimal} Such consolidation sounds like a good idea. **\<i2p-relay>** {-anonimal} Such consolidation sounds like a good idea.
**\<dEBRUYNE>** fluffypony: Yeah that'd be fine too **\<dEBRUYNE>** fluffypony: Yeah that'd be fine too
**\<dEBRUYNE>** as long as it consolidates the information to a central place it's fine **\<dEBRUYNE>** as long as it consolidates the information to a central place it's fine
**\<fluffypony>** I'll leave the question open till the start of the Kovri meeting, if nobody has major objections raised by then I'll consider the decision in favour of the GitHub wiki **\<fluffypony>** I'll leave the question open till the start of the Kovri meeting, if nobody has major objections raised by then I'll consider the decision in favour of the GitHub wiki
**\<ArticMine>** It is actually really needed We have info all over the place **\<ArticMine>** It is actually really needed We have info all over the place
**\<fluffypony>** (we discussed this here a few days ago as well, and everyone generally seemed in favour of it) **\<fluffypony>** (we discussed this here a few days ago as well, and everyone generally seemed in favour of it)
**\<fluffypony>** ArticMine: agreed **\<fluffypony>** ArticMine: agreed
**\<xmrpromotions>** I like the idea. Consolidation and simplification should hopefully encourage more people to contribute to it **\<xmrpromotions>** I like the idea. Consolidation and simplification should hopefully encourage more people to contribute to it
**\<fluffypony>** that's it from my side - next meeting will be on the 5th of May, same time **\<fluffypony>** that's it from my side - next meeting will be on the 5th of May, same time
**\<fluffypony>** if anyone has anything they want to discuss, or any other points they want to bring up, now's the time **\<fluffypony>** if anyone has anything they want to discuss, or any other points they want to bring up, now's the time
**\<fluffypony>** we have 20-ish minutes till the Kovri meeting **\<fluffypony>** we have 20-ish minutes till the Kovri meeting
**\<ArticMine>** I am looking at the fee structure **\<ArticMine>** I am looking at the fee structure
**\<moneromooo>** Does anyone fancy hacking the pool code to check top hash ? **\<moneromooo>** Does anyone fancy hacking the pool code to check top hash ?
**\<moneromooo>** It shold be fairly easy. **\<moneromooo>** It shold be fairly easy.
**\<i2p-relay>** {-anonimal} fluffypony: s/May/June/ **\<i2p-relay>** {-anonimal} fluffypony: s/May/June/
**\<dEBRUYNE>** ArticMine: Is your research going to be put in a somewhat formal paper? **\<dEBRUYNE>** ArticMine: Is your research going to be put in a somewhat formal paper?
**\<moneromooo>** er, s/hacking/amending/ for the peanut gallery. **\<moneromooo>** er, s/hacking/amending/ for the peanut gallery.
**\<ArticMine>** I'll start with a post on getmonero forum to get feedback ideas **\<ArticMine>** I'll start with a post on getmonero forum to get feedback ideas
**\<ArticMine>** then one can develop a paper **\<ArticMine>** then one can develop a paper
**\<dEBRUYNE>** all right **\<dEBRUYNE>** all right
**\<ArticMine>** Along the lined of my prior post on BCT regarding the adaptive block limit and penalty function. There are issues with respect to to many options in fees with RingCT **\<ArticMine>** Along the lined of my prior post on BCT regarding the adaptive block limit and penalty function. There are issues with respect to to many options in fees with RingCT
**\<dEBRUYNE>** Is anyone willing to work on adding Monero to Bitsquare? Afaik it's only a few minor tweaks in the UI code, see issue here -> https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/issues/392 | I might be able to try if I got some more time, emphasis on try though **\<dEBRUYNE>** Is anyone willing to work on adding Monero to Bitsquare? Afaik it's only a few minor tweaks in the UI code, see issue here -> https://github.com/bitsquare/bitsquare/issues/392 | I might be able to try if I got some more time, emphasis on try though
**\<fluffypony>** anonimal: thanks, lol **\<fluffypony>** anonimal: thanks, lol
**\<moneromooo>** To th UI of... ? **\<moneromooo>** To th UI of... ?
**\<dEBRUYNE>** Bitsquare itself **\<dEBRUYNE>** Bitsquare itself
**\<dEBRUYNE>** It needs an additional field for the tx key **\<dEBRUYNE>** It needs an additional field for the tx key
**\<moneromooo>** Ah, I just saw the screenshot. **\<moneromooo>** Ah, I just saw the screenshot.
**\<dEBRUYNE>** It's mainly to resolve disputes, if any occur **\<dEBRUYNE>** It's mainly to resolve disputes, if any occur
**\<dEBRUYNE>** Btw fluffypony, any ETA on a new point release that includes the performance branch? Or are we awaiting any more PRs? **\<dEBRUYNE>** Btw fluffypony, any ETA on a new point release that includes the performance branch? Or are we awaiting any more PRs?
**\<gingeropolous>** ArticMine, i look forward to the adaptive fee structure thread **\<gingeropolous>** ArticMine, i look forward to the adaptive fee structure thread
**\<luigi1112>** Oh high team **\<luigi1112>** Oh high team
**\<luigi1112>** Hi team too **\<luigi1112>** Hi team too
**\<gingeropolous>** hi luigi1112 **\<gingeropolous>** hi luigi1112
**\<fluffypony>** dEBRUYNE: more PRs, also gives us time to see if there are issues with auto-convert **\<fluffypony>** dEBRUYNE: more PRs, also gives us time to see if there are issues with auto-convert
**\<fluffypony>** *more issues **\<fluffypony>** *more issues
**\<xmrpromotions>** hi luigi1112 **\<xmrpromotions>** hi luigi1112
**\<moneromooo>** What would I do if I wanted to try and repro that problem ? just pull, build, run ? **\<moneromooo>** What would I do if I wanted to try and repro that problem ? just pull, build, run ?
**\<dEBRUYNE>** fluffypony: all right **\<dEBRUYNE>** fluffypony: all right
**\<gingeropolous>** im just curious... is 0mq gonna happen before ringCT? or ... or all at once? **\<gingeropolous>** im just curious... is 0mq gonna happen before ringCT? or ... or all at once?
**\<fluffypony>** moneromooo: yeah **\<fluffypony>** moneromooo: yeah
**\<fluffypony>** gingeropolous: no clue **\<fluffypony>** gingeropolous: no clue
**\<moneromooo>** I'm certainly doing nothing about it. **\<moneromooo>** I'm certainly doing nothing about it.
**\<gingeropolous>** well there's months until the next hardfork... though i guess 0mq doesn't affect consensus protocols? **\<gingeropolous>** well there's months until the next hardfork... though i guess 0mq doesn't affect consensus protocols?
**\<dEBRUYNE>** well it was either Ring CT or 0MQ for you afaik moneromooo and I think we decided last time that Ring CT was the priority (this is just to clarify to anyone reading) **\<dEBRUYNE>** well it was either Ring CT or 0MQ for you afaik moneromooo and I think we decided last time that Ring CT was the priority (this is just to clarify to anyone reading)
**\<fluffypony>** ok starting the meeting relay for the Kovri meeting **\<fluffypony>** ok starting the meeting relay for the Kovri meeting