--- layout: post title: Logs for the Community Meeting Held on 2020-02-15 tags: [dev diaries, crypto] author: asymptotically / rehrar --- # Logs **\** 0. Introduction **\** Hello and welcome to the Community Workgroup Gameshow (CWG)! I'm your host, Diego Salazar, and we've got a great show planned for you all tonight. **\** Let's meet our contestants. **\** 1. Greetings **\** Hi **\** buen sabado todos **\** hi **\** ahoy **\** salutations. **\** i'm napping **\** where's needmonero90. **\** Got us a lively group, don't we? Let's see how they handle the challenges to come. **\** 2. Community highlights \* needmonero90 sighs **\** i'll take geography for 500 rehrar **\** All points go to Diego who writes the Revuo Monero which you can see at https://revuo-monero.com **\** We also released the July 1, 2019 - December 31, 2019 periodical **\** Does anyone have anything in particular they want to highlight about this past couple of weeks? **\** price go up **\** cake wallet has been doing a nice job of getting people with breasts to post images of themselves wearing cake wallet t-shirts on tweeter **\** lol. **\** other than that I got nothing **\** ...when in the land of the nerds **\** i've been working on something very exciting **\** i'm only going to tell rehrar about it **\** endogenic: want to share? **\** boo! **\** because i'm only friends with him **\** double boo! **\** 43770 **\** ooooh, bonus points for endogenic **\** yessss **\** 3. CCS updates **\** haha i'll share real soon rottensox **\** We got a few things in funding. Fund Xiphon plz **\** Xiphon is the bees knees and does great work. selsta will now give a short speech/poem about Xiphon's contributions. **\** been hanging with some crytocurrency groups in SF as well. we may see some movement **\** he is doing important GUI work :P **\** clap clap **\** like improving stability, speed, etc. **\** truly a man with a mastery of words. Thank you selsta. **\** sorry Iā€™m currently eating :P **\** lol. **\** vtnerd? sarang? suraeNoether? anybody here with a report on CCS activities? **\** More math, more data, more fun **\** Using chain data to get better comparisons of next-gen tx protocols, etc. **\** Sarang Noether, ladies and gentlemen **\** i like sarang **\** Aw shucks **\** A few other assorted code updates, and so on **\** thank you. Any other CCS updates? **\** in other news mymonero continues not to ask the community for money **\** šŸ˜‚ **\** 4. Workgroup reports **\** 4a. Daemon/CLI scrubs **\** anyone here from them that can say what you've been up to? merged things? pr'd things? **\** 4b. Localization **\** ErCiccione[m]? you around? **\** lol. Zero points for everyone. **\** I do know they now have Weblate working with the website, so translate.getmonero.org for that stuffs **\** c. GUI workgroup **\** selsta: what's the word? **\** see https://github.com/monero-project/monero-gui/pulls?utf8=āœ“&q=is%3Apr for recent activity **\** what an informative meeting this is so far **\** lol. **\** dont mean to jump in but have to run. check out my upcoming monerotalk interview - i made some technical announcements **\** aight cya **\** when is it coming out **\** like stuff we've been workin on a long time **\** the interview **\** ah i dunno. it was about a week aho **\** ago **\** ok so soon :P **\** y'all remember when adding wallets to an app took 6 mos? **\** like jaxx? haha **\** well that's 1 day now **\** tbh i actually already open sourced some stuff quietly **\** but this is not the really exciting upcomign thing **\** time to go tell diego in private **\** haha **\** are you going to announce it in the interview? **\** or still secret :P **\** 4d. Outreach workgroup **\** I don't think any of them piped up either **\** :( **\** Thunderosa, xmrhaelan? **\** e. Monero Research Lab **\** selsta heya it's not announced in the interview no **\** sarang kinda already did it. **\** :) **\** I jumped the gun. We blazing through this meeting. **\** let's get us all home **\** f. Website workgroup **\** ErCiccione[m]: isn't here so we can skip this one too **\** woot. The best kinds of meetings. **\** efficient meeting **\** I have nothing useful to add besides mentioning that rehrar is doing a great job running this meeting even though people are slow to respond. If he waits long enough I'm sure everything will be covered in due time **\** 5. Open ideas time **\** 5a. Moneroversary. **\** We doing anything? Party? Who's bringing the beer? **\** i'ma chat w sgp about a ton of ideas i have for that **\** perfect. in fact, let's take all discussion offline for efficiency sake **\** next meeting will be held over PMs **\** hahaha **\** it's a private meeting **\** Any of you bozos have any ideas for open ideas time? **\** I have something if nobody else does. **\** you go first **\** There was some discussion and a twitter thread about some individuals wishing Defcon villages would go back to their roots of being more hands-on rather than talk focused. **\** Now Defcon is still a ways away, but if they have us back again, I'd like to see our village go in that direction. **\** Less talks. WAAAAY less talks. In fact, most of the talks can be the same talk given multiple times a day for people that can't make other times. "What is Monero?" given by different people or whatever. **\** More workshops. How to use the wallet. How to secure your seed. How to use a hardware wallet. **\** Can we allocate some time to discuss the addition of 'Reasonably' on the website? **\** dEBRUYNE: sure **\** how to lose your private key in a boating accident. **\** That's basically it from me. More discussions will develop in #monero-defcon when it's time, I think. **\** dEBRUYNE: take it away **\** lol, ok shall I start the discussion then? **\** Sorry, didn't see the ping **\** Anyway, I think, similar to the guy that posted on reddit, that we shouldn't add an adjective on the website, regardless of which it is **\** Simply 'private' is sufficient. In my opinion, it does not provide a privacy guarantee **\** Furthermore, we can add a disclaimer link that provides elaboration **\** The optics of 'reasonably' are quite bad in my opinion and it leaves a lot of new people guessing what it might entail **\** +1 **\** dEBRUYNE: agree **\** We can also remove the "A" and just end up with "Private Digital Currency" **\** which, surprise is what was there to begin with :D **\** a somewhat private with several important caveats that users should be aware of digital currency **\** has a nice ring to it **\** any other opinions? differing or otherwise? **\** jwinterm: tl;dr. **\** What would be the point of removing 'A' rehrar? **\** private digital currency is simple and effective. don't look for the 5th leg in the cat. **\** Or is my sarcasm detector broken here :p **\** not sarcasm, what's the point of keeping it? **\** 'A' is extraneous **\** I'd remove the "A" **\** it's implied, yes **\** unless..... **\** if we want an article **\** I agree an article is unnecessary **\** THE private digital currency **\** unless you use 'The' **\** ^ **\** rehrar and I are actually the same person **\** impossible. **\** if jwinterm does squats, then it's literally true **\** nah I'm fat and lazy **\** alright, so the present group is pretty much in agreement to remove "reasonably" **\** any other points of discussion or ideas? **\** if not, next meeting 29th. Same time.j **\** Yes, rehrar! I've submitted my third CCS for Monero integrations **\** https://repo.getmonero.org/monero-project/ccs-proposals/merge\_requests/125 **\** Phrasings like "private" and "untraceable" are not useful without a lot of context **\** ah, cool, go comment on that then everyone **\** remove private leaves "Digital Currency" **\** There you may find all the information about my CCS. If you have any question, or any additional feature request, please leave a comment! **\** sarang: Hence my suggestion to add a direct link to a disclaimer page **\** Like some people say, probably better for it to be a link that takes to qualifications **\** ye **\** It's not just the tagline... the homepage also says matter-of-fact phrasings like "Monero is private" and "Monero is untraceable" **\** There's nuance and use cases etc. that affect those things **\** every word should be a link to a disclaimer **\** although I think we should move untraceable **\** just hire a lawyer to decide how it should be phrased **\** I honestly think at some point we need to do a deep rethink of Monero's branding **\** I'm sure there's a good, snappy way to convey the message of Monero without a. overhyping us, b. underselling what makes us great **\** but it needs work, and a couple of tweaks isn't going to do it **\** shillo: lol **\** womanero **\** alright, meeting adjourned