--- layout: post title: Logs for the Kovri Dev Meeting Held on 2017-06-25 summary: Brief review of what has been completed since last meeting, creating formalized FFS process, website discussion, 96boards OpenHours showcase, and code & open tickets discussion tags: [dev diaries, i2p, crypto] author: dEBRUYNE / fluffypony --- # Logs **\<anonimal>** 1. Greetings **\<anonimal>** 2. Brief review of what's been completed since the previous meeting **\<anonimal>** 3. Status of [96boards.org OpenHours showcase for Kovri / Monero](https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/46) **\<anonimal>** 4. Contributor FFS check-in / status **\<anonimal>** 5. Community's progress with addendum / revision to https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/63 **\<anonimal>** 6. Open Meta issue review https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues **\<anonimal>** 7. Code + ticket discussion / Q & A **\<anonimal>** 8. Any additional meeting items **\<anonimal>** 9. Confirm next meeting date/time **\<anonimal>** Tick tock, like clock work. Hello :) **\<sgp>** Hey! **\<MoroccanMalinois>** Hi **\<rehrar>** yo yo **\<anonimal>** 2. Brief review of what's been completed since the previous meeting **\* anonimal** typing **\<anonimal>** For me: PR review/development + collaboration across various repos, kovri-site collab, code collab with MoroccanMalinois, finished up VRP's for all monero subprojects. **\<anonimal>** 5th tranche completed http://forum.getmonero.org/9/work-in-progress/86967/anonimal-s-kovri-full-time-development-funding-thread?page=&noscroll=1#post-91187 **\<anonimal>** MoroccanMalinois rehrar: any words for the brief review? **\<MoroccanMalinois>** Still digging in my private testnet **\<MoroccanMalinois>** It's getting better, one mini baby step at a time **\<anonimal>** Awesome **\<rehrar>** hold up, sorry **\<anonimal>** Sidenote: I just now realized that our previous meeting was *two* weeks ago and not a week ago... My forum post also covers the work done between our last meeting and now. **\<rehrar>** I'm literally with endogenic right now, he's in my houes **\<anonimal>** Hi endogenic **\<rehrar>** brief review for me **\<endogenic>** lol hi anonimal :) **\<rehrar>** I finished the Monero website, so we can start identifying features we want ported to the Kovri website **\<rehrar>** with Monero website mostly done (and hopefully up soon) I will shift focus to Kovri website **\<rehrar>** so we can start having a discussion in-depth about things we want **\<rehrar>** I know I mentioned porting the FAQ tech from the Monero website to Kovri and I think it was received ok **\<anonimal>** Ok. Note: I think we should continue to try and keep as many features/ideas/bugs in the issue tracker. **\<rehrar>** will do **\<rehrar>** I'll put my web ideas up there **\* anonimal** same here **\<anonimal>** Ok, thanks. Anything else on 2.? **\<i2p-relay> {-pigeons}** I'm going to talk with anonimal after the meeting about some questions about i2p tunnels and kovri.i2p will be up soon **\<anonimal>** Excellent :) **\<anonimal>** 3. Status of [96boards.org OpenHours showcase for Kovri / Monero](https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/46) **\<anonimal>** It looks like we're officially scheduled for July 20th, 16:00 UTC **\<anonimal>** I haven't seen the official confirmation email yet, and no word from FP, but I'm suspecting that we'll be go-for-launch. **\<anonimal>** I'll post details in the open issue as they come. **\<anonimal>** Anything else on 3.? **\<sgp>** 90% sure I can make it. **\<anonimal>** Ok, I hope you'll be able to make it. **\<anonimal>** For anyone who hasn't seen an episode of openhours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PL-NF6S9MM_W1QBjUc2B5Pg502bz7qslxk&v=s3nuVJmf9B0 **\<rehrar>** Can we put item 5 before 4 please? :) **\<rehrar>** nah never mind forget it **\<anonimal>** 4. Contributor FFS check-in / status **\<anonimal>** As I posted above, my 5th tranche was completed several days ago. Started the new tranche with some brief SSU collab with MoroccanMalinois and related work, but was AFK yesterday. **\<rehrar>** Congratulations anonimal!! **\<anonimal>** Thanks rehrar. **\<anonimal>** MoroccanMalinois has been pumping out \<insert great adjective here> work since he took over guzzi's unfinished FFS. **\<MoroccanMalinois>** :) thanks **\<moneromooo>** go go MoroccanMalinois ^\_^ **\<rehrar>** this kid ^^ **\<anonimal>** MoroccanMalinois: any thoughts/comments on point 4.? **\<MoroccanMalinois>** Nope. Maybe i should be ready for a milestone in next meeting :) **\<anonimal>** Awesome, ok. **\* anonimal** notes 100% fluidity in workflow from MoroccanMalinois. No snags, no conflicts, very helpful code **\<anonimal>** I don't mean to put you on the spot, I'm just trying to give a sense of your presence IMHO for the log / posterity. **\<anonimal>** Any other thoughts on 4.? **\<MoroccanMalinois>** :) thanks. I enjoy how it's going on so far **\<anonimal>** Good to hear. **\<anonimal>** 5. Community's progress with addendum / revision to https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/63 **\<rehrar>** I'm on that this week. Tomorrow actually. **\<rehrar>** I've been writing extensive documentation for the new website, and that's pretty much all done. **\<rehrar>** So I will be drafting documentation for FFS including terms, formatting, and theory. **\<rehrar>** I'll update the issue when it's done for review **\<anonimal>** Interesting. Which repo will you be working in? **\<rehrar>** Well I plan to have a Forum Funding System section in the User Guides page **\<rehrar>** http://45.32.161.183/resources/user-guides/ **\<rehrar>** so I thought I'd just put it in there from the get-go, but I can start it off in the meta repo **\<rehrar>** there's already one in the meta repo **\<rehrar>** https://github.com/monero-project/meta/blob/master/FFS **\<rehrar>** So I'll probably start working in there **\<rehrar>** and then port to the User Guides once it's done **\<rehrar>** done = approved **\<anonimal>** Ok. Maybe after that's done, we can remove it from the meta repo to avoid redundancy. **\<rehrar>** Sounds good. **\<anonimal>** We'll see how it goes. **\<rehrar>** I'll use the current one as a base and get into specifics regarding licensing and community expectations **\<anonimal>** Cool, that all sounds good rehrar. Anyone else on 5.? I have not looked/worked on the document since I created this meeting item. **\<rehrar>** if there's anything that anyone thinks is important, throw it up on the issue **\<anonimal>** Moving on, 6. Open Meta issue review https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues **\* anonimal** was hoping FP was around for #77, #78 **\<rehrar>** Shot a message to FP regarding new Kovri logo, waiting for response **\<rehrar>** #80 **\<anonimal>** Ok. pigeons rehrar do you know if we own getkovri.net? **\<rehrar>** I don't. Sec. **\<anonimal>** FP and I talked about that a looong time ago, not sure if he bought it though. **\<rehrar>** checking to see if it's taken **\<moneromooo>** The monero site is getmonero.org, if you're trying for the same template. **\<rehrar>** we have the .org but he's thinking to get .net and have it redirect to .org **\<rehrar>** it's available btw, so nobody has it **\<anonimal>** moneromooo: yep. It was instinct for me to type getkovri.net because of geti2p.net **\<moneromooo>** Cool. Ignore me then ^\_^ **\<anonimal>** fluffypony ^ getkovri.net? **\<rehrar>** I'll find a domain name seller and ask them to take Monero **\<anonimal>** Ok **\* anonimal** looks through open issues **\<rehrar>** regarding https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/43 I will be working on an action plan this week **\<rehrar>** it will probably a Monero and Kovri hybrid **\<rehrar>** but I'll make specific sections for each **\<rehrar>** there's tons of fun ideas spinning around in my mind **\<rehrar>** I'll probably lean towards a Kovri focus since I think it needs more help than Monero **\<anonimal>** Awesome awesome. I'd love to see what you come up with. **\<ArticMine>** I would get kovri.org **\<ArticMine>** before it gets taken **\<anonimal>** If anyone here gets it now, I'm sure they can be reimbursed. **\<rehrar>** I'll buy. But are the domains owned by a Monero specific account that I should transfer to? **\<serhack>** I think I can get getkovri.net **\<rehrar>** if there isn't would it be wise to have an accounts@getmonero.org type of email that the domains and other things can be attributed to? or would that be too centralized? **\<rehrar>** the Core team would have the password to it, ofc. I don't know what the current setup is. **\* anonimal** shrugs, all out of my jurisdiction, wishing FP was here **\<anonimal>** luigi1113: do we have a centralized accounts address? **\<anonimal>** rehrar serhack: if either of you can buy the domain now, that was be exquisite **\<serhack>** okay **\<serhack>** let me check **\* anonimal** stays out of this one **\<rehrar>** serhack, you can nab them and get reimbursed with Monero, as I know you're trying to get some more (afaik) **\<rehrar>** both getkovri.net and kovri.org if available **\<ArticMine>** Just registered kovri.org **\<anonimal>** ajs: I haven't forgotten about you! https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/27 **\<rehrar>** ArticMine is boss **\<anonimal>** Thank you ArticMine **\<Olufunmilayo>** might I suggest also .com so to have all 3 top levels for each domain name? this would aid in preventing someone setting up .com and serving malicious code or ..ect **\<rehrar>** good point **\<rehrar>** but I think kovri.com is taken **\<anonimal>** lol, actual russian kovri **\<ArticMine>** Yes it is and is used in an unrelated business in Russia **\<rehrar>** it's a russian rug store **\<Olufunmilayo>** well where possible that is **\<rehrar>** I speak Russian **\<rehrar>** I can reach out to them to see their willingness to sell **\<serhack>** can you confirm me getkovri.net ? **\<serhack>** anonimal **\<rehrar>** ye that's the one **\<anonimal>** Huh? What do you need from me? **\<anonimal>** Yes, getkovri.net **\<serhack>** okay, done **\<anonimal>** Yay, grazie il mio amico **\<rehrar>** ok so in Russian Ковер is a rug **\<serhack>** :) you are trying to speak italian!! :) **\<rehrar>** and the plural is Ковры **\<rehrar>** which is Kovri in English **\<serhack>** there is a free who-is privacy :) **\<rehrar>** So literally, for the, the site is rugs.com **\<anonimal>** Ya znaiu, rehrar **\<rehrar>** which I could imagine is a pretty premium domain for Russia **\<rehrar>** D: **\<rehrar>** anonimal: the master of all language **\<iDunk>** I was wondering about that the other day. **\<iDunk>** There was an odd "Me too" :) **\<iDunk>** anonimal starting to deanon? :D **\<anonimal>** rehrar: maybe they'll be interested in kovri software **\<serhack>** anonimal: where can I talk with you privatly? **\<anonimal>** iDunk: ah! **\<serhack>** irc? **\<rehrar>** at the very least, we can ask that they accpet Monero **\<rehrar>** I will purchase their rugs with Monero **\<anonimal>** serhack: for secure privacy, yes: use OTR on IRC. **\<anonimal>** rehrar: lol yes do it! **\<anonimal>** ajs: if you're around, I'll be happy to talk more about #27 **\<rehrar>** serhack, if you need some help putting OTR for IRC I can show what I did **\<serhack>** rehrar: yeah, I need some help **\<anonimal>** Thank you for helping, rehrar **\<rehrar>** alright, no worries man. **\<rehrar>** no worries other man **\<anonimal>** rehrar: what do you think of this https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/24 **\<anonimal>** How effective do you think it would be? **\<rehrar>** I was just looking at that. I know nothing about GNU social **\<rehrar>** I'll give it some research this week **\<rehrar>** and I'll get back to you on viability and pros/cons **\<rehrar>** let's get all the issues closed :D **\<anonimal>** We had a test run a long while ago. Someone started hosting a test server but then seemed to abandon it. The service didn't catch on for our community but then again I think no one knew about it. **\<anonimal>** Ok, sounds good. **\<anonimal>** Any thoughts on #81? **\<anonimal>** needmultisig90: https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/81 **\<anonimal>** Well, we're running out of time. Any other comments/questions about open meta issues? **\<rehrar>** Nah. Not for now. **\<anonimal>** 7. Code + ticket discussion / Q & A **\<anonimal>** MoroccanMalinois and I started a discussion around 01:00 UTC Saturday. I think we can continue anytime after the meeting. **\<anonimal>** Anything else on 7.? **\<anonimal>** 8. Any additional meeting items **\<anonimal>** rbrunner will be working on some new windows installers. I'm very happy to hear this :) **\<rbrunner>** Thanks :) **\<rehrar>** Woo! **\<rbrunner>** My little contribution to the revolution **\<anonimal>** I'll respond to your message a.s.a.p, rbrunner, then I think the rest will be straightforward. **\<rbrunner>** By mail? **\<anonimal>** Hehe, a very welcome contribution. **\<anonimal>** Sure, just to keep continuity. Then more IRC if you're comfortable with that. **\<rbrunner>** Ok. **\<anonimal>** Any other meeting items from anyone? **\<anonimal>** 9. Confirm next meeting date/time **\<anonimal>** Two weeks, same time? **\<rehrar>** No **\<rehrar>** Jk yes. **\<MoroccanMalinois>** lol **\<anonimal>** haha **\<anonimal>** Ok, thanks everyone. :) **\<anonimal>** Fruitful meeting. I could taste the nectar.